In Oregon, lining or “flossing” of salmon in several rivers may soon get the boot. Apparently, things have gotten ugly at places like the infamous Hatchery Hole on the Rogue and others.
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Ken says
I think the problem is there are so many goody two shoes that haven’t a clue salmon “RARELY” bite anything unless they are being bullied by it. aka plugs. Fishing with a bead/ “fly” lol, takes some serious skill and it’s virtually the only way to catch sockeye in AK. Do these guys really think by eliminating this type of fishing, their chances will increase? They will still go home virtually empty handed after they eliminate the masses of harvesters…
Mark says
Shoulder to shoulder at the outlet is a bit much. But, is using a boat, fish finder and Flatfish with two treble hooks more sporting…really?
JD says
Yes, the Kwikfish thing is much more sporting…the fish actually have to willingly bite them…and therein lies the difference.
Cory says
Not out of hunger though. When it comes to King salmon I disagree. People jigging snag half the time if on purpose or not and with the flat fish they are only biting because it’s a plug that is in their path and bite out of aggressive annoyance not like with nearly all other fishing. I use that method myself but it’s not as rewarding as with other fish when they’ll actually chase lures and bait.
John Klar says
There are a couple of fundamental issues I have with this technique, if you want to call it that. The beauty of fishing is that it allows for a choice to be made; the fish can strike your offering, or refuse to. The better you get at the game, ie. presentation, drift etc…, the more fish you catch. It rewards the studious.
Flossing, lining, whatever term you choose, is basically a sucker punch. The fish has no say in what happens.
My dad taught me the basics of fishing. From there I studied, read, experimented and logged everything into memory, amassing real knowledge of how to FISH. Now.. and here’s the worst part; fathers are teaching their sons how to do it. Those kids may never realize the satisfaction that goes along with actually fooling a fish. Some of them may never learn what it feels like when a fish actually voluntarily takes their bait, and that is sad.
JD says
Thanks John, well said!
dan lizardo says
it just pisses me off when i see these brush okies flossing right where the salmon are trying to spawn below the feather river outlet and after they land a fish they discuss what color bead they were hitting
Jeremiah says
It doesn’t bother me on hatchery fish on dead systems like all the valley rivers in California. Those are hatchery fish paid for by tax dollars they are detrimental to the system in terms of competing with wild fish (if there are any) for spawning ground space. They are just going to die anyway. Maybe they should open a flossing specific season for certain areas of the river (up against a dam like Nimbus) after the hatchery has all the fish they need to meet their numbers. It keeps the knucklheads corraled in one location not spread out all over the river! I’m not sure why this gets people so fired up. If they outlaw flossing they better outlaw jigging too.
Ryan Sabalow says
Here’s my take on this stuff.
http://blogs.redding.com/rsabalow/archives/2011/11/beading-flossin.html
Keith says
Its the common way of catching Sockeye here in Alaska. As long as it is hooked in the head with a single it is legal. Also there are times and places where it is leagal to dip them with a net also and they taste so good!
Oh, it is so sweet to live in Alaska!!
Rod Bendeth says
Leave it to the Oreagonians to use floss on fish and not on there own teeth.
Jason Green says
It’s poaching, plain and simple. I’d like to see it disappear in California.
jay k says
Good, Hopefully the Ca. Fish & Game will get on the ball also! They sure like to harass us good guys, when these snaggers and cops should both be kicked off the river!!! the last fish and game warden that harassed me didn’t even know what a Coho salmon is. Pure idiots %@#*!& Snaggers what??@%??
cliff rains says
What the hell is flossing? Is it like the way they use beads on the american, have seen that (snagging)? Never heard of it.
Somebody please explain
Steelie Pete says
You got my friend. Flossing is snagging is lining is beading is….. a hundred names for the same act.