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Fly Fishing with a Spinning Rod

July 12, 2009 By JD 65 Comments

Trout and bobber
Fly fishing with spinning gear may sound a bit funky at first, but it’s one deadly trout technique!

And what’s really cool is you can take just about any popular fly fishing technique – be it floating dries, indicator nymphing or stripping leeches and streamers – and you can get it done with spinning tackle. In some cases, you can do it in a much more efficient and accurate fashion, too. That’s right, you can do just as well – or better – tossing little wads of feathers and glue on light spinning gear. Welcome to the brave new world of fluff chucking with the short rod.

Dry Flies

When a hatch is coming off, trout can get single-mindedly dialed into those particular bugs and won’t eat anything that doesn’t match that exact size and color profile. In those circumstances, you could toss every piece of hardware in your box until you turned blue and not get so much as a sniff from a fish.

Crystal Cast bobber and flies
The Crystal Cast is a great bobber for dry fly fishing with a spinning rod

The good news is you can get to those surface sippers with spinning gear and the right setup. First off, figure out what pattern the fish are feeding on and then tie on a clear float (the ball point pen-shaped Crystal Cast is the best I’ve found). From the other end of the float, run as much leader as you can comfortably cast – usually 3 to 5 feet – and then tie on your fly. As with any sort of dry fly fishing, you’ll greatly enhance your effective fishing time by liberally coating your bug in floatant to keep it riding high and dry. In moving water, cast upstream of the fish, pick up the slack between the fly and float and allow it to drift with the current naturally.

Yep, this is fun!
Yep, this is fun!

Now, you can also catch trout on dries on lakes. When using this rig to target rising trout on stillwater, you actually have the advantage over traditional fly gear because you can cast farther and require less room for back casts. Toss out beyond the fish and work your offering back through the feeding zone with a steady, molasses-slow retrieve. If fish start blowing up around you, stop cranking and let the fly sit.

“Spin”dicator Nymphing

When the trout are feeding below the surface, many Western fly fishers turn to indicator nymphing, which just may be the deadliest of all trout techniques. With a few slight modifications, the spinning crowd can also get in on the fun. To rig up for spindicator nymphing, slide a cigar-shaped sliding or slip float to your mainline. Every float has a weight rating and you need to pick one that will handle the amount of lead you’ll be using. I generally only use a splitshot or two and maybe a bead-head nymph, so small bobbers like the Shy Bite and Mini Stealth by Thill work great.

Indicator Nymphing is actually more effective on spinning gear
Indicator Nymphing is actually more effective on spinning gear

Next, tie a nymph to the business end of your main line and add just enough splitshot 12 to 18 inches above the fly to keep it near the bottom and your bobber riding straight up and down. Fly selection, of course, is a day-to-day and water-by-water type of deal. However, there are several bugs like Hare’s Ears, AP Nymphs, Birdsnests, Zug Bugs, San Juan Worms and Glo Bugs that fish will eat in a wide array of conditions.

One good way to get started is to buy a trout assortment fly kit that will give you several popular dry and sub surface patterns.

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You can start with some of those patterns until you figure out what the trout are onto on a given day. The key to making the whole deal work lies in your ability to make a drag-free presentation. In other words, your rig needs to drift naturally downstream at the speed of the current. If a belly forms in your line between the rod tip and the float, the current will grab it and drag your line downstream too quickly.

Big Buggin’

So maybe you want to target larger trout with streamers and leechy-type stuff. No problem! There are several ways to throw big bugs on spinning tackle.

Muddler Minnows + spin gear = Big Trout!
Muddler Minnows + spin gear = Big Trout!

One of my favorite stream trout methods for browns is to cast Muddler Minnows, smolt patterns and dark Woolly Buggers and Zonkers. You can get a mixed pack of them HERE. I’ll use just enough splitshot 12 to 15 inches above the fly to get it down near the bottom and then cast slightly downstream and across. As the fly sinks and begins its downstream arc, I’ll twitch it along with subtle pops of the rod tip. Most strikes occur right at the end of the swing, and believe me brother when I say hang on to your rod!

There’s nothing subtle about the way salmo trutta slams a swung fly. A variation on this theme also works well in lakes. Instead of running the weight up the line, I will crimp a single splitshot onto the leader just ahead of the eye of the hook, making my own “poor man’s” beadhead. I’ve had some days for the record books in the High Sierra, hopping buggers right along the bottom. When the trout are near the surface in the spring and fall, the old school Bug and Bubble is the ticket.

Wolly Bugger and Bubble
Wooly Bugger and bubble

To rig up, run a clear casting bubble or a Crystal Cast float up your mainline and then attach 3 to 5 feet of leader with Woolly Bugger, Bunny Leech, Matuka or Zonker on the end. If you need to get down a bit, affix a small shot 18 inches up the line. The idea here is to whip the thing out there and work it back to you with a slow, steady grind punctuated with an occasional pop of the rod tip.

Gearing Up

For general spin-fly purposes, I like a 5’4″ St Croix ultralight stick for small overgrown streams and the 7-foot Okuma SST makes a nice affordable choice for fishing on larger rivers and lakes.

Line choice is dictated by the style of fishing you plan to do. For fishing dries or dead-drifting nymphs with floats, go with 10-pound braid and 4-pound P-Line Fluorocarbon for a leader. When fishing without a bobber, I run straight 4- to 6-pound fluorocarbon.

Come on baby...go down!
Come on baby… go down!

There are many quality spinning reels on the market these days and I’d look for one that has a a smooth drag system, like the Shimano 1000 Syncopate, which is a nice reel for the price. A little nicer (and more expensive) one is the Diawa BG 1500.

Well, there you have it – trout fly fishing from a spinning point of view. It’s not just a novelty, either. I guarantee the techniques outlined above help you improve you scores this spring and summer. And you don’t need to spend a fortune to get started.

When you’re ready for some bigger game like steelhead fishing, check out my huge 6+ hour online course: Catch More Steelhead. It will teach you everything you need to know to get good!

And of course, guided fishing trips on Lake Tahoe, Pyramid Lake and Alaska with JD are available year round HERE

Filed Under: Best of FishwithJD, Trout & Kokanee Tagged With: crystal cast, dry fly, fly fishing, indicator fishing, indicator nymphing, muddler minnow, nymphs, spinning gear, trout fishing, woolly bugger

New World Record Largemouth Bass??

July 10, 2009 By JD 13 Comments

record largemouth bass from Japan
Is this gigantic largemouth taken a few days back the new all-tackle world record?? Well, details are a bit sketchy at the moment but George W. Perry and his 22-pound, 4-ounce record for the species, which has stood since 1932, may just be in jeopardy…or not??

Caught in Japan’s Lake Biwa by Dep Tackle pro staffer Manabu Kurita in early July, this bass allegedly weighed (on a certified scale) 22 pounds, 5 ounces. Again, many of the particulars are taking their time crossing the Pacific — including what the fish was caught on, though at this point, it’s looking like live bait.

Obscene!!!

Obscene!!!

Now, it’s up to the International Game Fish Association to sort out all the details. If all the proper paperwork is submitted and the fish truly weighed 22 pounds, 5 ounces, it may still not be considered the new standard for largemouth. You see, the IGFA has a rule that states a record must be broken by two ounces. Since Kurita’s bass may have only eclipsed Perry’s by an ounce, it may be declared a tie….which seems pretty lame to me. How can you call it a tie if it weighed more??

Well, it will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. In the meantime, watch the video and let us know what you think…

Filed Under: Trophy Room Tagged With: george w. perry, igfa, japan, lake biwa, world record largemouth bass, world reocrd bass

Which Hot Shot Rod?

July 10, 2009 By JD Leave a Comment

JD-

I’m looking for a new Hot Shot rod. Was looking to add to the HSR collection but forgot that the 930 is spinning only. Wanting to keep things light, what do you think about the HS 795C from Rogue or the Lamiglas G 1336 T. The Lamilgas seems a little short at 7’6″ and I’m not sure what ” Flame Tip” means? What’s your take?

Thanks, Derik

Hey Derik,

A sweet little number for plugging steelies with small plugs is the XCF801 from Lamiglas. It’s 8 feet long and rated for 6-15 pound line. The coolest thing about this rod, however, is the fact that it’s fiberglass. Glass is truly the way to go with plug rods — you get much better plug action and tip “readability” with glass, plus hooks stay buried better…which, of course, is always a huge plus when you’re plug fishing!

And this isn’t your granpapy’s old clunky glass, either. Modern manufacturing processes make it much lighter and thinner than in the old days… Check out ’em out at: monsterfishingtackle

Filed Under: uncategorized Tagged With: backtrolling, hot shot, lamiglas, pulling plugs, Steelhead

Record Limit of Smallmouth!

July 9, 2009 By JD Leave a Comment

Record Limit of Smallies
Okay, so I’m not sure where they keep records of such feats, but Bill Prince’s 5-fish limit of Trinity Lake smallmouth bass that went 27.7 pounds is certainly the California record in my book…

I know, it’s hard to tell from a photo of a replica mount (he let all the bass go) just how big the fish were, but take a look at that 13-inch rainbow trout that’s in there for scale and you’ll get a better idea. Prince was fishing a club tournament on Sept. 30, 2007 when he weighed in a 6.36 pounder, a 6.30 and the three little ones were all 5 plus pounds. Click here to read more…

Filed Under: Trophy Room Tagged With: drop-shotting, smallmouth bass, trinity lake

Goliath on a Fly!

June 29, 2009 By JD Leave a Comment

Toe-to-toe with a tarpon
So, I’m not sure who originally thought it was a good idea to go spend all day in the blinding tropical sun, hunting for fish that are only slightly smaller than the low-freeboard skiff you’re in and then trying to hook said monster with a wad of feathers and glue, but they tell me fly fishing for tarpon is a blast!

Our pal and Northern California fishing guide extraordinaire, John Klar is officially a tarpon fishing junkie these days and has been making annual treks down to Marathon Key…the epicenter of South Florida silver king fishing.

Though the cold water denizens of Nor Cal’s Redwood Coast are what put grub on Klar’s table, it’s tarpon on flea flickin’ gear that really tickles his Toad (the fly pattern, Tarpon Toad, that is!). Is it the art of the stalk? The act of making a perfect cast to a fish and seeing him turn? Does the rush come from the instant you stick one with some steel? Or when a fish the size of Rhode Island goes airborne?

Alll bow to the king!!!

Alll bow to the king!!!

Perhaps it’s all about getting up close and personal with a fish…touching it…and then letting it go…

Definatley bigger than a steelhead...and the water's warmer too!

Definatley bigger than a steelhead...and the water's warmer too!

Or maybe it’s something else… Click here to read more…

Filed Under: Trophy Room Tagged With: florida, fly fishing, john klar, Saltwater, tarpon

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